24th June 2008

Payback is hell

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A necessary evil of having friends, especially mom friends, is loaning money.  I don’t know anyone who hasn’t remembered at one point to put their wallet in their diaper bag when heading out for the day or realized they only had $45 in their checking account so couldn’t put anything on their debit card (who, me?).   At one point or another every mom has asked their mom friend for a few dollars here, $30 there (expensive dinner) with a “sure, I’ll pay you back soon” wink and nod.

I happily loan out money whenever I have a friend in need. Even if my checking account is absurdly low right now (ahem, perhaps I should find another freelance gig), I’m always flush with cash thanks to a neurotic husband and refusal to pay the $2 ATM fee if my bank’s terminal is not nearby. See you at Starbucks and you’re a dollar short? No worries, I got your latte. Need parking fee for the zoo? I’ll get your car out of that lot.

I’ve also been on the receiving end of many a dollar. But as soon as I see my bank friend again, I always pay back. Even if I have to shove the money in their wallet. I hate having an I.O.U. to a B.F.F.

There are those out there though who may not remember how I treated them to a yogurt or turkey sandwich (with a soda), wine (Australian Shiraz) or even a movie. That’s okay, to a point, but I’m finding that the $2 here and $14 there (zoo parking is expensive) can add up.  It’d be really nice if my checking account was at $60 instead of $45.

When I brought this up to my friends today (none of which had any outstanding loans from me), I felt like a cheapskate for my plan to ask my other friend to pay me back from a movie night a few weeks ago.  It’s not like there’s a lot I can do around town with the $11.50 ticket price (that’s 3 lattes!), but it’s sort of the notion that the money is floating out there, somewhere, trying to find its way back to my bank account. (I’d be up to $71.50, cha-ching!)

My friends were mixed on what to do. I just thought I’d be forthright, up front and ask point blank for my money back.  Some thought I should be a little more tactful.  Bring up the movie, talk about its obvious plots, fabulous fashion and terrific dialogue (I loved it too!) and see if she bites with an “oh! I owe you money for the ticket, don’t I?”

But I hate being passive agressive.  If I had any outstanding movie tickets, coffees, parking fees, bottles of wine, anything, I’d want to know ASAP.  As a SAHM now, I have to protect my funds.

So that’s what I’m gonna do.  I’m just gonna ask. I hope she has the correct change.

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  1. 1 On June 24th, 2008, Mom101 said:

    Awkward! Ack! I hate those situations.

    Can’t you just say, “hey I got the movie last time…can you get the coffees today?” Or something?

  2. 2 On June 24th, 2008, Adventures In Babywearing said:

    I’m the same way- I would want to know, too. And usually I am very good about either offering it next time I can or offering to take care of the next check, etc- I like Mom101’s response up there- I’d probably (and I think I have) done the same thing before!

    Steph

  3. 3 On June 24th, 2008, selfmademom said:

    I like the bait and switch! But I saw her today and didn’t get up the nerve to ask!!

  4. 4 On June 24th, 2008, Emily said:

    That’s a tough one. If this friend were the type of person that didn’t pay you back all the time, then I would definitely say something. If this was a one-time thing, then it might be worth letting go. What about asking her (in a confused manner of course), “Did you write me a check for that movie ticket from last week? I went to the bank today and couldn’t remember if you had given me one to deposit or not…”

  5. 5 On June 25th, 2008, Shelli said:

    This issue drives me crazy, and I’m with you… I don’t mind picking up the tab, but I expect reciprocity. Usually I’ll say, “I’ll get this time, you get it next time.” If someone takes advantage of me, then I’ll bring it up nicely without being a biotch about it.

  6. 6 On June 25th, 2008, theOrganizedMom said:

    A VERY long time ago I had a friend, and she told me that she was always told if you want to keep your friends, forget about money. I have kept that philosophy through my whole life. Wheneve I GIVE money to friends I compeletely forget about it, and I do not consider it a loan. Hopefully they remember some time, and maybe next time we go to the movies, hopefully she offers to pay, but I wouldn’t count on it. Not to say she is shady or anything, maybe she is just forgetful. Whatever the case is, I wouldn’t bring it up, and I would forget about it in my own head. You just have to ask yourself is your friendship really worth only $12? Since here is what can happen… “hey friend, do you have the money for that movie?” her - “oh SORRY! I totally forgot, I don’t have any cash right now, I’ll get it to you next time I see you”. Then she feels bad if she didn’t go and get cash for the next time she sees you, so she tries to NOT see you, since she doesn’t really carry cash, and will have to make a special effort to grab some. Then she starts avoiding you, and sooner or later you don’t have a friend… because of $12. I’m saying that’s an extreme circumstance, but I have to say that philosophy has really helped me in life. I just make it a point to completely forget about any money I GIVE a friend… I never “loan”

    Sorry for the rant, just my 2 cents.

  7. 7 On June 25th, 2008, Marketing Mommy (Alma) said:

    My friends and I usually trade off paying for stuff, figuring it all works out in the end. BUT, if I did ask for a loan, and for some reason I’d forgotten to repay it, I would want to be reminded.

    I’d rather feel bad for a moment than lose a friend over an unspoken grudge.

  8. 8 On June 25th, 2008, April said:

    I am with you. I hate having outstanding “debts” to friends. It is so often just more easy to alternate who picks up the lunch tab rather than nickel and dime the tab or ask for seperate checks.

    So far I am lucky though - I think my friends are as anal as I am about making sure we pay back.

  9. 9 On June 25th, 2008, Allison said:

    hey - please tell me you do the zoo “membership”??? it’s 80 bucks
    a year and “free parking” .. it’s so worth it????

    i don’t do the loan thing. take turns on lunches,,,yeah - but only
    with the really close friends…allison

  10. 10 On June 27th, 2008, Robyn said:

    I’ve been burned too many times by
    too many people, so it is rare that I lend money.

    And when I do, I think of it as a free gift.

    I have had to get over the uncomfortableness and
    have that tough conversation. I tend to stick with the fair
    “Money is tight right now as I am between freelance gigs. When we
    get together tommorrow, can I get the money you borrowed for the movie?”

    And then next time I think you just say “Sorry, I don’t have any cash” when in the situation again./

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